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not an article per se but:
the museum of dick
and believe it or not, its actually safe for work
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16 weeks of steroids
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The funny thing is he could've seen a shitton of gains just from starting to work out. It's not uncommon for beginners lifting hard to add hundreds of pounds to lifts in their first year.
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did you read it? cause it sounded like he had been working out for a while (he mentions he hit the plateau prior to starting his experiment). your thoughts?
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| Mexideth wrote: | | did you read it? cause it sounded like he had been working out for a while (he mentions he hit the plateau prior to starting his experiment). your thoughts? |
Honestly? I did read the article. It was much more objective than most mainstream articles about steroids (or any drug for that matter), not that that's saying much. The thing is though...
| Quote: | | And though it's disheartening to say, at 30, I was already finding evidence of a body on its downslope. While I worked out regularly, I hadn't made a sizeable gain in years. |
If he hadn't made a sizeable gain in years, he's fucking up. Yes, I'm making the assumption that he was trying to make a change because of the way he phrased this section. Steroids aren't a magic pill. So I'd be very curious to know if part of it was just getting past a mental barrier, especially on the bench press.
Steroids aren't a magic pill. They'll help you with protein synthesis, but they aren't gonna put 30 lbs on a lift in a single session. They help over time for sure, but you still have to bust your ass in the gym and eat a ton. Therefore I'd be a little hesitant to believe he shot up and then going from 85s to 100s on dumbbell bench in one session as a result.
For reference: my lifts are not very impressive. I have been lifting hard for approximately one year. I benched 95s after taking 6 months off of heavy dumbbell pressing. My guess is there's a combination of things going on. The steroids helped him for sure. Beyond that though, I'm willing to bet he started working harder because he felt like he could and should so as to not waste his opportunity. There are lots of steroid users and abusers that you wouldn't even know lifted to look at them. I don't mean to be an ass, but honestly over those 16 weeks he went from below average to almost average on his lifts. Almost. He lost some fat along the way, and please note that his after picture features him with a post workout pump. When I've finished working out, my biceps are so pumped that I can't touch my own shoulders. They do not look like that an hour later. I would love to see an unpumped after picture.
I don't mean to downplay the effect steroids had, but I think he greatly overestimates the effect they had and underestimates how much he had to do with both his behavioral changes and his lifting. If a grown man of average height wants to gain muscle and is stuck at 200 lbs, something is wrong.
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oh hey, no assitude detected. I dont know a damn thing about lifting, hence was curious. also... i failed to see the before and after pictures....
EDIT: I'm an idiot..... first thing you see when you load the article is the before and after....
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Joe is exactly correct. The after picture is post-pump, post-oiling, post-top-down lighting. I think his pecs did get a bit bigger though, and he definitely cut fat, which can also be done without steroids, such as not eating pastries.
The effect of steroids are incredibly varied, and there's really no way to see their impact until you try yourself. However, the overnight strength loss is most likely motivational. Strength is a factor motivation, neuromuscular link, and muscle mass. The amount of fuel available to muscle is also very important. Steroids will undoubtedly ramp up the amount of energy your body contributes to anabolism, or muscle building. Also, steroids become testosterone in its many forms, and they greatly increase motivation, which leads to increased strength. Steroids can undoubtedly help break a plateau (most likely through motivational mechanisms), as Flavio thought.
What is interesting is that his mass gains are way in disproportion to his strength gains. He got up to 240 lbs and his dumbbell bench went from 85 lb to 105 lb. Again, as Joe said, almost average.
And for the reference: Joe's lifts ARE impressive. He is the mack daddy. |
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http://www.komonews.com/news/19427134.html
"It's believed that the two were traveling in a bright yellow 2008 Chevy Aveo, Alabama license plate OMGROFL"
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That license plate is directed at the girl who was dumb enough to fall prey to him.
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if cookbook fans had the mind of the d&d crowd: link
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elementary school locked for........
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Lockdown would have locked a real ninja in with the students. You never hear about schools locked down for pirate sitings though. Maybe that insult will draw the Archfiend out of retirement.
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no school has been locked down for pirate sightings either
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| Mexideth wrote: | | no school has been locked down for pirate sightings either |
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I stand by what I said. I have not seen any pirate sites near schools.
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GRAPE http://kotaku.com/5120568/ah-the-delicious-taste-of-tentacle-rape
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/feb/01/scars-sex-appeal
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